I need ideas for a complicated menu

You can customize the output of wp_list_pages into your desired output using custom walker. Check out the links below on how to write it.

http://www.kriesi.at/archives/improve-your-wordpress-navigation-menu-output
http://bugssite.org/blog/2009/12/08/wordpress-custom-walker-tutorial/
http://wordpress.org/support/topic/multilevel-horizontal-menu

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